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    {{Sexuality Info|title1=|image1=Achilleanflag.png|caption1=The achillean flag.|gender(s):=Men or enbys|gender(s)_attracted_to:=Men or enbys (exclusively or not)}}
    [[Category:Sexuality]]
    '''Achillean''', also known as '''men-loving men''' ('''MLM'''), '''apollian''', '''chaeronean''', or '''wildean''', refers to a [[man]] or [[enby]] individual who is attracted to other men or enby individuals. One may or may not be attracted to other genders as well. This attraction does not need to be exclusive, as the label is used in a way to unify under an [[umbrella]] all men/enbys who love other men/enbys, including [[gay]] ([[vincian]], [[veldian]], [[erosian]], or [[uranian]]) men/enbys, [[bisexual]] men/enbys, [[pansexual]] men/enbys, [[queer]] men/enbys, and other [[m-spec]] men/enbys, promoting solidarity among all of these identities.
    [[Category:Identity]]
    [[Category:Gender-Loving-Gender]]
    {{Sexuality Info|title1=|image1=Achilleanflag.png|caption1=The achillean flag.|gender(s):=Man or man-aligned|gender(s)_attracted_to:=Men or man-aligned (exclusively or not)}}
    '''Achillean''', also known as '''men loving men''' ('''MLM'''), '''apollian,''' '''chaeronean,''' and '''chaeronic''', refers to a man or [[masculine]]-aligned person who is attracted to other men or men-aligned people. This attraction need not be exclusive, as the label is used in a way to unify all men who love other men, including e.g. [[gay]] ([[vincian]]) men, [[bisexual]] men, [[pansexual]] men, [[omnisexual]] men, and others, promoting solidarity among men of all identities.


    The term can be used as a modifier combined with other identities to specify that one prioritizes their attraction to and relationships with other men/enbys. It may also be used as an identity on its own and may be particularly useful for individuals who know they are attracted to men/enbys but may be uncertain if they are attracted to other genders. It can also be used to describe a relationship between the same/similar gender.


    It can be used as the non-exclusive counterpart to vincian. Vincian and achillean are the men-loving-men counterpart to [[turian]] and [[floric]].


    The [[feminine]] counterpart to achillean is [[sapphic]]. The [[Non-Binary|non-binary]] counterparts are [[diamoric]] and [[enbian]].
    The [[non-binary]]/[[enboric]] counterparts are [[diamoric]] and [[enbian]]. The [[female]] counterpart is [[julietian]]. The [[femaric]] counterparts are [[sapphic]] and [[faunic]].


    == History==
    == Other Terms ==
    There are many other terms used to refer to non-exclusive attraction to men, often referring to Ancient Greek and Roman literary figures as well as gay rights activists and artists since the 16th century. These terms include:
    The word achillean has historically been used to describe things relating to the mythological figure [[wikipedia:Achilles|Achilles]]. The first instance of achillean being used in the context of men attracted to men is likely a 2016 post by Tumblr user Asculan.<ref>http://archive.is/c3Rag</ref>


    * Apollian or Apollonian, in honor of the Ancient Greek and Roman deity Apollo.<ref>{{Archive|URL=2022.02.15-070432/https://cockyroaches.tumblr.com/post/183383188298/proposed-apollianapollonian-flag-based-on}} </ref>
    ==LYRICS :))000))00))) ==
    * Wildean, in honor of writer Oscar Wilde.<ref>https://archive.is/GO3s5</ref>
    Astro, yeah
    * Chaeronean, based on the Order of Chaeronea was started in 1897 by early gay rights activist George Cecil Ives.<ref>{{Archive|URL=2020.06.20-033626/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Chaeronea}}</ref><ref>https://archive.is/pI1S6</ref>
    * Hyacean or Hyacique, based on Hyacinthus from Greek mythology.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20220124162315/https://vnjie.tumblr.com/post/165728513898/this-is-the-flag-for-hyacean-a-flag-for-sga-men Reblog of hyacean coining]</ref><ref>{{Archive|URL=2022.02.15-070600/https://bijoumikhawal.tumblr.com/post/188264317374/hyacique}}</ref>
    * Ganymedic, in honor of Ganymede from Greek mythology.<ref name=":0" />
    * Patroclean, in honor of Patroclus from Greek mythology.<ref name=":0" />
    * Sivanic, in honor of singer and YouTuber Troye Sivan.<ref name=":0" />
    * Tomic, in honor of erotic artist Tom of Finland.<ref name=":0" />
    * Vincic, in honor of inventor Leonardo da Vinci.<ref name=":0" />
    * [[Vincian]], also based on Leonardo da Vinci is occasionally used as another version of achillean, but is also used to refer to [[gay men]] (exclusive attraction).


    Known historical or no-longer used identities under the achillean umbrella include [[uranian]] and [[virescin]].
    Sun is down, freezin' cold


    == History ==
    That's how we already know, winter's here
    The word achillean has historically been used to describe things relating to the mythological figure Achilles. The first instance of achillean being used in the context of men attracted to men is in 1959 in A.C. Hamilton's scholarly article titled "Spenser's Treatment of Myth":
    <blockquote>''Guyon subdues these Achillean affections through his own power; but they break out again as Cymochles lapses into lust and Pyrochles burns in the idle lake.''<ref>{{Archive|URL=2022.02.15-070722/https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Achillean}}</ref></blockquote>
    This usage predates the reclamation of the word "gay," previously only a derogatory term for homosexual men, as a synonym for self-identified and proud homosexual by the Gay Liberation Front by ten years.<ref>{{Archive|URL=2022.02.15-070840/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_liberation%231969}}</ref>


    The resurgence of achillean is likely due to the internet, specifically a post by Tumblr user asculan on June 13, 2016.<ref name=":0">{{Archive|URL=2017.02.24-032312/http://asculan.tumblr.com/post/145854586548/suggested-words-for-mlm-so-far-achillean-in}}</ref>
    My dawg would probably do it for a Louis belt


    == Flag ==
    That's just all he know, he don't know nothin' else
    The original achillean flag was created by Tumblr user pridenpositivity in 2016.<ref>{{Archive|URL=2019.04.16-133242/http://pridenpositivity.tumblr.com/post/146340602624/sapphic-flag-pink-love-violets-sga-women-used}}</ref> The flag was redesigned by DeviantArt user Pride-Flags on October 5, 2016,<ref>{{Archive|URL=2019.04.16-133800/https://www.deviantart.com/pride-flags/art/Achillean-638170749}}</ref> which is widely accepted as the current achillean flag.


    Both flags have two blue stripes on the top and bottom representing men. In the center is a green carnation. In ancient Rome and 19th century England, green indicated gay affiliations. Victorian men would often pin a green carnation on their lapel, as popularized by author Oscar Wilde. In general, the achillean flag represents joy.
    I tried to show 'em, yeah


    A commonly used alternate flag, with a darker blue stripe and a green stripe with the same symbolism, was created by Reddit user Pacack on September 6, 2019.<ref>{{Archive|URL=2022.02.15-071318/https://www.reddit.com/r/vexillology/comments/d0ctq2/my_take_on_the_mlmachillean_pride_flag/}}</ref> In general, the achillean flag has been redesigned or tweaked many times since its creation.<ref name=":1">{{Archive|URL=2022.02.15-070957/https://mlmflags.carrd.co/%23mlm-flags}}</ref>
    I tried to show 'em, yeah, yeah


    The Blue Rose flags were made as alternative flags for achillean for those who don't like that term; the term and flags were designed by Twitter user CatColors<ref name=":1" /> sometime before April 30, 2021.<ref>{{Archive|URL=2022.02.15-071124/https://lgbtqiarchive.tumblr.com/post/649942228563886080}}</ref> The light blue at the top of the flag represents gay men. the sky blue after the light blue represents bisexual and pansexual men, the white/gray represents [[Gender Non-Conforming|GNC]] and non-binary MLM/NBLM, the light violet represents [[A-Spec|a-spec]] MLM, and the light purple represents [[Panpronominal|all pronoun]]/[[Neopronouns|neopronoun]] and [[xenogender]] MLM.<ref name=":1" />
    Yeah, yeah, yeah


    The "NWLNW" MLM/NBLM flag by [[Exclusionist]] Twitter user R7YGUTZ (now [https://twitter.com/LYCANFOE LYCANFOE]) was designed on September 11, 2020. LYCANFOE has stated it is a "NWLNW (non-woman-loving-non-woman) flag"<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20230303024326/https://twitter.com/LYCANFOE/status/1571679551591178240</ref> and not just a MLM/NBLM flag, meaning it is not inclusive of all MLM/NBLM who are [[Transgender|Trans]], [[Multigender]], [[Non-Binary|Nonbinary]], [[Genderfluid]], or [[Genderflux]] who many not always be a "non-woman".
    Goin' on you with the pick and roll


    The dark pink color at the top of the flag represents attraction and beauty, the purple represents MLM of color, the blue represents community and support, the turquoise represents acceptance, the light green represents [[Transgender|trans]], non-binary, and GNC MLM, the light orange represent peace and warmth, and the darker orange represents love and [[Romantic Attraction|romance]].<ref>{{Archive|Site=today|URL=2021.06.03-174729/https://twitter.com/R7YGUTZ/status/1304520588770390022}}</ref> As of September 19th, 2022 LYCANFOE has deleted the original coining thread<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20230303024326/https://twitter.com/LYCANFOE/status/1571679551591178240</ref> and stated that would like people to stop using the flag as "it feels wrong to have a flag out there made by someone who doesn't even fit those labels in the first place anymore".<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20230303025650/https://twitter.com/REFUSERADIO/status/1571696349447614465</ref>
    Young La Flame, he in sicko mode


    The MLM flag by Twitter user infernalgraves was designed on July 1, 2020. The dull blue represents [[Masculine|masculinity]] and pride, the first periwinkle blue represents bravery and inner beauty, the white represents [[transmasculine]], non-binary, and GNC, the second periwinkle blue represents [[Sexual Orientation|sexuality]]/[[Romantic Orientation|romance]] and a-spec, and the dull pink represents femininity and love.<ref>{{Archive|Site=web|URL=20220120150923/https://twitter.com/infernalgraves/status/1278494580527243264}}</ref>
    Woo, made this here with all the ice on in the booth


    The MLM/NBLM flag by Twitter user MIGHTYHEGEMOL was designed on August 31, 2020. The light yellow represents GNC and trans men, the yellow represents joy, the green represents nature, the blue represents calmness, the darker blue represents finding peace, and the darkest blue represents healing.<ref>(source no longer exists)</ref>
    At the gate outside, when they pull up, they get me loose


    The [[Demisexual|demi]]<nowiki/>achillean flag was created by an anonymous wiki user on August 3, 2021. It is the achillean flag in the demi- flag format. The dark grey stripe stands for [[A-Spec|a-spec]] attraction. This flag can be used for [[Sexual Attraction|sexual]], [[Romantic Attraction|romantic]], and [[Tertiary Attraction|tertiary]] attraction.
    Yeah, Jump Out boys, that's Nike boys, hoppin' out coupes


    == Etymology ==
    This shit way too big, when we pull up, give me the loot
    The word ''achillean'' comes from the name of the hero in the ''Iliad'', Achilles, who was romantically involved with another man, Patroclus.


    == Gallery ==
    (''Gimme the loot!'')
    <gallery widths="200" mode="nolines" class="center">
    File:Achillean.jpg|The original achillean flag.
    File:Achillean flag.jpg|An alternate achillean flag.
    File:Blue Rose 1.jpg|Blue Rose MLM/NBLM flag
    File:Blue Rose 2.jpg|Blue Rose MLM/NBLM flag (without rose)
    File:Mlm (1) - 5000x3000px.png|MLM/NBLM flag by @R7YGUTZ/LYCANFOE ([https://web.archive.org/web/20230303025650/https://twitter.com/REFUSERADIO/status/1571696349447614465 who has stated the flag should not be used anymore])
    File:MLM Alternate Flag.png|MLM flag by @infernalgraves
    File:MLM-NBLM Alt Flag.png|MLM/NBLM Flag by @MIGHTYHEGEMOL
    File:Demiachillean.png|The demiachillean flag
    </gallery>


    ==References==
    Was off the Remy, had a Papoose
    <references />


    [[Category:Mia/Min Attraction]]
    Had to hit my old town to duck the news
    [[Category:Gender-Loving-Gender]]

    [[Category:Verified Resources]]
    Two-four hour lockdown, we made no moves

    Now it's 4 a.m. and I'm back up poppin' with the crew

    I just landed in, Chase B mixes pop like Jamba Juice

    Different colored chains, think my jeweler really sellin' fruits

    And they chokin', man, know the crackers wish it was a noose

    ''Some—Some—Some—Someone said''

    To win the retreat, we all in too deep

    Pl—Pl—Playin' for keeps, don't play us for weak (''Someone said'')

    To win the retreat, we all in too deep

    Pl-Pl-Playin' for keeps, don't play us for weak

    Yeah, this shit way too formal, y'all know I don't follow suit

    Stacey Dash, most of these girls ain't got a clue

    All of these hoes I made off records I produced

    I might take all my exes and put 'em all in a group

    Hit my eses, I need the bootch

    'Bout to turn this function to Bonnaroo

    Told her, "Hop in, you comin' too"

    In the 305, bitches treat me like I'm Uncle Luke

    (''Don't stop, pop that pussy!'')

    Had to slop the top off, it's just a roof, uh

    She said, "Where we goin'?" I said, "The moon"

    We ain't even make it to the room

    She thought it was the ocean, it's just the pool

    Now I got her open, it's just the Goose

    Who put this shit together? I'm the glue

    [Bridge: Travis Scott, ''Swae Lee'' & '''Big Hawk''']

    ''Someone said''

    Shorty FaceTimed me out the blue

    ''Someone said''

    '''Pl—Playin' for keeps'''

    ''Someone said, motherfucker—someone said''

    '''Don't play us for weak'''

    == Etymology==
    The word achillean comes from the name of the hero in the Iliad, Achilles, who was romantically involved with another man, Patroclus.<gallery navigation="true">
    File:Achilleanflag.png|Achillean flag|link=https://ask-pride-color-schemes.tumblr.com/post/151092891459/simplified-achillean-flag
    File:Achillean_flag.jpg|An alternate Achillean flag
    File:tumblr_inline_oe9bm0Zkb81re2bou_400.png|The original achillean flag
    </gallery>
    ==Resources==
    <references />

    Latest revision as of 07:43, 15 October 2023

    Achillean, also known as men-loving men (MLM), apollian, chaeronean, or wildean, refers to a man or enby individual who is attracted to other men or enby individuals. One may or may not be attracted to other genders as well. This attraction does not need to be exclusive, as the label is used in a way to unify under an umbrella all men/enbys who love other men/enbys, including gay (vincian, veldian, erosian, or uranian) men/enbys, bisexual men/enbys, pansexual men/enbys, queer men/enbys, and other m-spec men/enbys, promoting solidarity among all of these identities.

    The term can be used as a modifier combined with other identities to specify that one prioritizes their attraction to and relationships with other men/enbys. It may also be used as an identity on its own and may be particularly useful for individuals who know they are attracted to men/enbys but may be uncertain if they are attracted to other genders. It can also be used to describe a relationship between the same/similar gender.

    It can be used as the non-exclusive counterpart to vincian. Vincian and achillean are the men-loving-men counterpart to turian and floric.

    The non-binary/enboric counterparts are diamoric and enbian. The female counterpart is julietian. The femaric counterparts are sapphic and faunic.

    Other Terms

    There are many other terms used to refer to non-exclusive attraction to men, often referring to Ancient Greek and Roman literary figures as well as gay rights activists and artists since the 16th century. These terms include:

    • Apollian or Apollonian, in honor of the Ancient Greek and Roman deity Apollo.[1]
    • Wildean, in honor of writer Oscar Wilde.[2]
    • Chaeronean, based on the Order of Chaeronea was started in 1897 by early gay rights activist George Cecil Ives.[3][4]
    • Hyacean or Hyacique, based on Hyacinthus from Greek mythology.[5][6]
    • Ganymedic, in honor of Ganymede from Greek mythology.[7]
    • Patroclean, in honor of Patroclus from Greek mythology.[7]
    • Sivanic, in honor of singer and YouTuber Troye Sivan.[7]
    • Tomic, in honor of erotic artist Tom of Finland.[7]
    • Vincic, in honor of inventor Leonardo da Vinci.[7]
    • Vincian, also based on Leonardo da Vinci is occasionally used as another version of achillean, but is also used to refer to gay men (exclusive attraction).

    Known historical or no-longer used identities under the achillean umbrella include uranian and virescin.

    History

    The word achillean has historically been used to describe things relating to the mythological figure Achilles. The first instance of achillean being used in the context of men attracted to men is in 1959 in A.C. Hamilton's scholarly article titled "Spenser's Treatment of Myth":

    Guyon subdues these Achillean affections through his own power; but they break out again as Cymochles lapses into lust and Pyrochles burns in the idle lake.[8]

    This usage predates the reclamation of the word "gay," previously only a derogatory term for homosexual men, as a synonym for self-identified and proud homosexual by the Gay Liberation Front by ten years.[9]

    The resurgence of achillean is likely due to the internet, specifically a post by Tumblr user asculan on June 13, 2016.[7]

    Flag

    The original achillean flag was created by Tumblr user pridenpositivity in 2016.[10] The flag was redesigned by DeviantArt user Pride-Flags on October 5, 2016,[11] which is widely accepted as the current achillean flag.

    Both flags have two blue stripes on the top and bottom representing men. In the center is a green carnation. In ancient Rome and 19th century England, green indicated gay affiliations. Victorian men would often pin a green carnation on their lapel, as popularized by author Oscar Wilde. In general, the achillean flag represents joy.

    A commonly used alternate flag, with a darker blue stripe and a green stripe with the same symbolism, was created by Reddit user Pacack on September 6, 2019.[12] In general, the achillean flag has been redesigned or tweaked many times since its creation.[13]

    The Blue Rose flags were made as alternative flags for achillean for those who don't like that term; the term and flags were designed by Twitter user CatColors[13] sometime before April 30, 2021.[14] The light blue at the top of the flag represents gay men. the sky blue after the light blue represents bisexual and pansexual men, the white/gray represents GNC and non-binary MLM/NBLM, the light violet represents a-spec MLM, and the light purple represents all pronoun/neopronoun and xenogender MLM.[13]

    The "NWLNW" MLM/NBLM flag by Exclusionist Twitter user R7YGUTZ (now LYCANFOE) was designed on September 11, 2020. LYCANFOE has stated it is a "NWLNW (non-woman-loving-non-woman) flag"[15] and not just a MLM/NBLM flag, meaning it is not inclusive of all MLM/NBLM who are Trans, Multigender, Nonbinary, Genderfluid, or Genderflux who many not always be a "non-woman".

    The dark pink color at the top of the flag represents attraction and beauty, the purple represents MLM of color, the blue represents community and support, the turquoise represents acceptance, the light green represents trans, non-binary, and GNC MLM, the light orange represent peace and warmth, and the darker orange represents love and romance.[16] As of September 19th, 2022 LYCANFOE has deleted the original coining thread[17] and stated that would like people to stop using the flag as "it feels wrong to have a flag out there made by someone who doesn't even fit those labels in the first place anymore".[18]

    The MLM flag by Twitter user infernalgraves was designed on July 1, 2020. The dull blue represents masculinity and pride, the first periwinkle blue represents bravery and inner beauty, the white represents transmasculine, non-binary, and GNC, the second periwinkle blue represents sexuality/romance and a-spec, and the dull pink represents femininity and love.[19]

    The MLM/NBLM flag by Twitter user MIGHTYHEGEMOL was designed on August 31, 2020. The light yellow represents GNC and trans men, the yellow represents joy, the green represents nature, the blue represents calmness, the darker blue represents finding peace, and the darkest blue represents healing.[20]

    The demiachillean flag was created by an anonymous wiki user on August 3, 2021. It is the achillean flag in the demi- flag format. The dark grey stripe stands for a-spec attraction. This flag can be used for sexual, romantic, and tertiary attraction.

    Etymology

    The word achillean comes from the name of the hero in the Iliad, Achilles, who was romantically involved with another man, Patroclus.

    Gallery

    References

    1. https://archive.today/2022.02.15-070432/https://cockyroaches.tumblr.com/post/183383188298/proposed-apollianapollonian-flag-based-on
    2. https://archive.is/GO3s5
    3. https://archive.today/2020.06.20-033626/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Chaeronea
    4. https://archive.is/pI1S6
    5. Reblog of hyacean coining
    6. https://archive.today/2022.02.15-070600/https://bijoumikhawal.tumblr.com/post/188264317374/hyacique
    7. 7.0 7.1 7.2 7.3 7.4 7.5 https://archive.today/2017.02.24-032312/http://asculan.tumblr.com/post/145854586548/suggested-words-for-mlm-so-far-achillean-in
    8. https://archive.today/2022.02.15-070722/https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Achillean
    9. https://archive.today/2022.02.15-070840/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_liberation%231969
    10. https://archive.today/2019.04.16-133242/http://pridenpositivity.tumblr.com/post/146340602624/sapphic-flag-pink-love-violets-sga-women-used
    11. https://archive.today/2019.04.16-133800/https://www.deviantart.com/pride-flags/art/Achillean-638170749
    12. https://archive.today/2022.02.15-071318/https://www.reddit.com/r/vexillology/comments/d0ctq2/my_take_on_the_mlmachillean_pride_flag/
    13. 13.0 13.1 13.2 https://archive.today/2022.02.15-070957/https://mlmflags.carrd.co/%23mlm-flags
    14. https://archive.today/2022.02.15-071124/https://lgbtqiarchive.tumblr.com/post/649942228563886080
    15. https://web.archive.org/web/20230303024326/https://twitter.com/LYCANFOE/status/1571679551591178240
    16. https://archive.today/2021.06.03-174729/https://twitter.com/R7YGUTZ/status/1304520588770390022
    17. https://web.archive.org/web/20230303024326/https://twitter.com/LYCANFOE/status/1571679551591178240
    18. https://web.archive.org/web/20230303025650/https://twitter.com/REFUSERADIO/status/1571696349447614465
    19. https://web.archive.org/web/20220120150923/https://twitter.com/infernalgraves/status/1278494580527243264
    20. (source no longer exists)
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