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    {{Sexuality_Info|title1=Vincian|image1=Mlm_(seven-stripe_version).svg|caption1=Vincian flag by Tumblr user "gayflagblog"|gender(s):=Men/Man-Aligned|gender(s)_attracted_to:=Men/Man-Aligned}}
    {{Sexuality_Info|title1=Vincian|image1=Mlm_(seven-stripe_version).svg|caption1=The vincian flag by Tumblr user "gayflagblog".|gender(s):=Men/Man-Aligned|gender(s)_attracted_to:=Men/Man-Aligned}}[[File:Mlm (five-stripe version).svg|thumb|The simplified version of gayflagblog's flag |alt=]]


    '''Vincian''' and '''Cinthean''' (also called '''Patroclian''' and '''Wildean''',) is one of multiple terms used to describe [[gay]] men or men-aligned people. It is unclear what the exact meaning of the term was intended to be. Some people treat it as a variant of achillean (referring to any MLM attraction, exclusive or not). Some people use it as the masculine equivalent of [[lesbian]] (referring to exclusive attraction).
    '''Vincian''' and '''Cinthean''' (also called '''Patroclian''' and '''Wildean''',) is one of multiple terms used to describe [[gay]] men or men-aligned people. It is unclear what the exact meaning of the term was intended to be. Some people treat it as a variant of [[achillean]] (referring to any MLM attraction, exclusive or not). Some people use it as the masculine equivalent of [[lesbian]] (referring to exclusive attraction).


    The term "[[gay]]" is used as an adjective to describe homosexuality, and is also often used by the entire [[LGBTA Wiki|LGBT]] community in general. For this reason, various proposed terms for homosexual men were coined, including vincian. Some individuals also argue that "gay" should just mean homosexual men all together, due to the fact that homosexual women are referred to as lesbian. Other people simply refer to homosexual men as "gay men".
    The term "[[gay]]" is used as an adjective to describe homosexuality, and is also often used by the entire [[LGBTA Wiki|LGBT]] community in general. For this reason, various proposed terms for homosexual men were coined, including vincian. Some individuals also argue that "gay" should just mean homosexual men all together, due to the fact that homosexual women are referred to as lesbian. Other people simply refer to homosexual men as "gay men".

    == Etymology==

    The term vincian was coined in honor of Leonardo da Vinci, who was an Italian polymath of the Renaissance. He was thought to be involved in various homosexual relationships, although no one has proven it. He is most famous for his painting of Mona Lisa.


    ==Other Terms==
    ==Other Terms==


    *Patroclian comes from the Greek story of Patroclus, who was thought to be a romantic partner of Achilles (Achilles is also the origin of Achillean). Many people feel this term is too long and has too many syllables.
    * Patroclian comes from the Greek story of Patroclus, who was thought to be a romantic partner of Achilles (Achilles is also the origin of Achillean). Many people feel this term is too long and has too many syllables.


    *Wildean was coined in honor of Oscar Wilde, an important figure in LGBT history. (This is also used as a variant of Achillean.) Wildean is also used as an adjective to describe things connected to Oscar Wilde.
    * Wildean was coined in honor of Oscar Wilde, an important figure in LGBT history. (This is also used as a variant of Achillean.) Wildean is also used as an adjective to describe things connected to Oscar Wilde.
    *[[Floric]] is a term used for non-woman attracted to non-women, it includes and is ''sometimes'' used as a synonym for “gay men”. It is named after Florence, the birthplace of Leonardo Da Vinci, who is the namesake of vincian.
    *[[Floric]] is a term used for non-woman attracted to non-women, it includes and is ''sometimes'' used as a synonym for “gay men”. It is named after Florence, the birthplace of Leonardo Da Vinci, who is the namesake of vincian.
    *Cinthean is pulled the term from the Greek myth of Hyacinthius and Apollo.
    *Cinthean is pulled the term from the Greek myth of Hyacinthius and Apollo.


    == Flags ==
    ==Flags==
    [[File:Gay man.png|thumb|The gay man flag by Valentin Belyaev.]]
    [[File:C1c31a6a5cb184159f0a6bbcd465c9b8.jpg|thumb|220x220px|The older vincian flag by ask-pride-color-schemes <ref>https://ask-pride-color-schemes.tumblr.com/post/149449006549</ref>|alt=]]
    [[File:C1c31a6a5cb184159f0a6bbcd465c9b8.jpg|thumb|The original vincian flag by ask-pride-color-schemes. <ref>https://ask-pride-color-schemes.tumblr.com/post/149449006549</ref>|alt=]]
    [[File:Cinthean.png|thumb|The cinthean flag.]]
    [[File:Gay man 3 by pride flags ddx2cjp-fullview.png|thumb|An alternate gay man/vincian flag by gaymanflag on Tumblr.]]
    There are many flags that represent gay men or vincians.


    In the mid-2010s, gay activist Valentin Belyaev posted his version of the gay man flag in an initiative group in VKontakte to combat gayphobia (homophobia against men)<ref>[https://vk.com/wall-146511780_2722 Flag gay man]</ref> and on Tumblr.<ref>[https://valya-belyaev.tumblr.com/post/182766126702/gay-mens-flag-as-soon-as-rainbow-six-coloured Gay men’s flag]</ref> It later spread further on the internet and especially spread in the gay activist space.<ref>[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gay_men_pride_flag.png File:Gay men pride flag.png]</ref><ref>[https://vk.com/wall-155654539_2050 Gay and bi man]</ref> This flag consists of shades of azure and blue, symbolizes the diversity of the gay community and is an analog of the traditional lesbian flag, consisting of shades of rose and red.
    The older version of the flag was made by Mod Hermy of the @ask-pride-color-schemes Tumblr blog and was based off of the set-up of the pink lesbian flag with it's seven stripes<ref>https://ask-pride-color-schemes.tumblr.com/post/149449006549</ref>.


    The original vincian flag was made by Mod Hermy of the @ask-pride-color-schemes Tumblr blog in 2017.<ref>[https://pride-color-schemes.tumblr.com/post/162294430961/gay-man-some-proposed-flags-to-represent Gay Man]</ref><ref>[https://gayflagblog.tumblr.com/post/186181118619/gay-man-flag-many-people-are-unhappy-with-the Gay Man Flag]</ref> It was based on the lipstick lesbian flag, which in turn was plagiarized from a satirical cougar pride flag. This design has been criticized for its stereotypical use of blue to represent gay men in terms of masculinity.<ref>[https://freethoughtblogs.com/atrivialknot/2019/03/13/i-hate-this-gay-flag/ I hate this blue gay flag]</ref>
    Later in 2019, the Tumblr Blog gayflagblog proposed a flag based off of the prior version that addressed the issues with the old one by adding symbolic and historical meanings to each color and stripe as well as allowing those in the community to offer input and propose their own changes.


    Later in 2019, the Tumblr Blog gayflagblog proposed a flag based off of the prior version that addressed the issues with the old one by adding symbolic and historical meanings to each color and stripe as well as allowing those in the community to offer input and propose their own changes.The top three stripes represent community, healing, and joy. The bottom three stripes represent pure love, fortitude, and diversity. The white middle stripe is taken from the trans flag and represents all trans, non-binary, and [[Gender Non-Conforming|gender non-conforming]] vincians/gay men. The green and teal in the flag represent nature, as love between men is often seen as “unnatural” in the eyes of society and in religion. Furthermore, gay men have historically used green flowers and plants (carnations, hyacinths, etc.) The blue-to-purple gradient on the bottom of half the flag symbolizes how some vincians might be stereotypical, some might not be, and some are in-between or fluid.
    [[File:Mlm (seven-stripe version).svg|thumb|Newer vincian/gay flag by gayflagblog.|alt=|180x180px]]


    There are various versions of this flag, including five-stripe and six-stripe "simplified" flags as well as various color edits to make the flag more purple with warmer greens, have different shades of green to represent the carnation flower, and one that added the color pink to the flag<ref>https://gayflagblog.tumblr.com/post/629409796470276096</ref>. Versions of the flag with the double-Mars symbol<ref>https://gayflags.carrd.co/#mars</ref> and the hyacinth flower<ref>https://gayflagblog.tumblr.com/post/622372254435753984</ref> have also been made.[[File:Mlm (five-stripe version).svg|thumb|The "simplified" 5-stripe version of gayflagblog's flag |alt=]]The meanings of the top three stripes are "Community", "Healing", and "Joy". The meanings of the bottom three stripes are "Pure Love", "Fortitude", and "Diversity". The white middle stripe is taken from the trans flag and represents all trans vincians/gay men.
    There are various versions of this flag, including five-stripe and six-stripe "simplified" flags as well as various color edits to make the flag more purple with warmer greens, have different shades of green to represent the carnation flower, and one that added the color pink to the flag<ref>https://gayflagblog.tumblr.com/post/629409796470276096</ref>. Versions of the flag with the double-Mars symbol<ref>https://gayflags.carrd.co/#mars</ref> and the hyacinth flower<ref>https://gayflagblog.tumblr.com/post/622372254435753984</ref> have also been made.


    The cinthean flag, was created by monstericfag on Twitter. The meaning is as follows: navy represents depth, purple represents beauty, fuchsia represents passion, pink represents pure love, peach represents joy, and white represents trans, nonbinary, and gender non-conforming people.
    Gayflagblog has talked about the inclusion of the White stripe and it's similarities to lesbian flag designs: "''The white stripe is adopted from the Trans Pride flag because trans, nb, and GNC men are often erased or talked over and need explicit representation. We have a lot of unaddressed and blatant Transphobia, internalized Homophobia, and Toxic Masculinity directed towards GNC/non-cis men in our community that we need to address and resolve.''


    ==Etymology==
    ''I am aware that a white middle stripe may make people think it’s too similar to other flags but at this point in time, where the battle for what should be basic human rights for trans people is ongoing, even in LGBT spaces, it’s more important than ever to remember the crucial roles our trans and GNC family have played in building our history and to honor them''."


    The term vincian was coined in honor of Leonardo da Vinci, who was an Italian polymath of the Renaissance. He was thought to be involved in various homosexual relationships, although no one has proven it. He is most famous for his painting of Mona Lisa.
    The green and teal in the flag represent nature, the reason being "''[gayflagblog] thought this was important because love between men is often seen as “unnatural” in the eyes of society and in religion. Furthermore, gay men have historically used green flowers and plants (Carnations, hyacinths, etc.) to symbolize our love, reinforcing our connection with Nature.''"

    The purple and indigo represent "diversity in presentation, relationships, and life experience." The blue-to-purple gradient on the bottom of half the flag symbolizes ''"how some [Vincians] might be stereotypical, some...might not be, and some... are in-between or fluid. Regardless, we should all be celebrated and respected."''

    The Cinthean flag, coined by monstericfag on Twitter (whos account is now disabled), has six horizontal stripes: navy representing depth, purple representing beauty, fuchsia representing passion, pink representing pure love, peach representing joy, and white representing trans, nonbinary, and gender non-conforming people.

    Vincian flags are often labeled as "gay man" or "gay men" flags or even as just "mlm" flags, but should not be confused with [[achillean]] flags.<gallery>

    File:Gay man 3 by pride flags ddx2cjp-fullview.png|An alternate vincian/gay man flag designed by a Tumblr user "gaymanflag"
    File:Cinthean.png|Cinthean flag.

    </gallery>

    <br />


    ==Resources ==
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    [[Category:Sexuality]]
    [[Category:Mia/Min Attraction]]
    [[Category:Mia/Min Attraction]]

    Revision as of 22:05, 15 May 2021

    File:Mlm (five-stripe version).svg
    The simplified version of gayflagblog's flag

    Vincian and Cinthean (also called Patroclian and Wildean,) is one of multiple terms used to describe gay men or men-aligned people. It is unclear what the exact meaning of the term was intended to be. Some people treat it as a variant of achillean (referring to any MLM attraction, exclusive or not). Some people use it as the masculine equivalent of lesbian (referring to exclusive attraction).

    The term "gay" is used as an adjective to describe homosexuality, and is also often used by the entire LGBT community in general. For this reason, various proposed terms for homosexual men were coined, including vincian. Some individuals also argue that "gay" should just mean homosexual men all together, due to the fact that homosexual women are referred to as lesbian. Other people simply refer to homosexual men as "gay men".

    Other Terms

    • Patroclian comes from the Greek story of Patroclus, who was thought to be a romantic partner of Achilles (Achilles is also the origin of Achillean). Many people feel this term is too long and has too many syllables.
    • Wildean was coined in honor of Oscar Wilde, an important figure in LGBT history. (This is also used as a variant of Achillean.) Wildean is also used as an adjective to describe things connected to Oscar Wilde.
    • Floric is a term used for non-woman attracted to non-women, it includes and is sometimes used as a synonym for “gay men”. It is named after Florence, the birthplace of Leonardo Da Vinci, who is the namesake of vincian.
    • Cinthean is pulled the term from the Greek myth of Hyacinthius and Apollo.

    Flags

    The gay man flag by Valentin Belyaev.
    The original vincian flag by ask-pride-color-schemes. [1]
    The cinthean flag.
    An alternate gay man/vincian flag by gaymanflag on Tumblr.

    There are many flags that represent gay men or vincians.

    In the mid-2010s, gay activist Valentin Belyaev posted his version of the gay man flag in an initiative group in VKontakte to combat gayphobia (homophobia against men)[2] and on Tumblr.[3] It later spread further on the internet and especially spread in the gay activist space.[4][5] This flag consists of shades of azure and blue, symbolizes the diversity of the gay community and is an analog of the traditional lesbian flag, consisting of shades of rose and red.

    The original vincian flag was made by Mod Hermy of the @ask-pride-color-schemes Tumblr blog in 2017.[6][7] It was based on the lipstick lesbian flag, which in turn was plagiarized from a satirical cougar pride flag. This design has been criticized for its stereotypical use of blue to represent gay men in terms of masculinity.[8]

    Later in 2019, the Tumblr Blog gayflagblog proposed a flag based off of the prior version that addressed the issues with the old one by adding symbolic and historical meanings to each color and stripe as well as allowing those in the community to offer input and propose their own changes.The top three stripes represent community, healing, and joy. The bottom three stripes represent pure love, fortitude, and diversity. The white middle stripe is taken from the trans flag and represents all trans, non-binary, and gender non-conforming vincians/gay men. The green and teal in the flag represent nature, as love between men is often seen as “unnatural” in the eyes of society and in religion. Furthermore, gay men have historically used green flowers and plants (carnations, hyacinths, etc.) The blue-to-purple gradient on the bottom of half the flag symbolizes how some vincians might be stereotypical, some might not be, and some are in-between or fluid.

    There are various versions of this flag, including five-stripe and six-stripe "simplified" flags as well as various color edits to make the flag more purple with warmer greens, have different shades of green to represent the carnation flower, and one that added the color pink to the flag[9]. Versions of the flag with the double-Mars symbol[10] and the hyacinth flower[11] have also been made.

    The cinthean flag, was created by monstericfag on Twitter. The meaning is as follows: navy represents depth, purple represents beauty, fuchsia represents passion, pink represents pure love, peach represents joy, and white represents trans, nonbinary, and gender non-conforming people.

    Etymology

    The term vincian was coined in honor of Leonardo da Vinci, who was an Italian polymath of the Renaissance. He was thought to be involved in various homosexual relationships, although no one has proven it. He is most famous for his painting of Mona Lisa.

    Resources

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