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Hello, this is intersexcowboy again. ''Please disregard Miroymon's edits to the wiki entirely''. They are not to be trusted on matters of this identity or definition. As an intersex AND altersex person who is caught up on their history, I can confidently say that Miroymon is not taken seriously in ''either'' community, and has been attempting to change existing definitions like this for months now. They have received feedback from multiple intersex and altersex people and chose to disregard all of it, in favor of referring to said-people as "altersexist" for basic critisicisms. Such as stating the fact that altersex is unrelated to being intersex, altersex identity does not change perisex status, perisex is not "opt-in", and the fact that the concept of "somayr" is quite literally a physical impossibility in cases of claims of spontaneous hormone changes, and seems to just be describing gender dysphoria in others. It is both a redundant term and one that could cause people who have hormone fluctuations to not find the actual reason why. My intersex variation causes my hormones to spontaneously fluctuate. That is not caused by a niche queer microlabel. As for "enab" and "inabir", these terms are also entirely redundant and harmful as they imply one can change their status as a perisex/intersex person, which is not possible. We already have the word perisex, and intersex. There is no reason to tack on "at birth" on the end, as these things do not change about a person the same way someone may change their mullarian(female) or wolffian(male) sex later in life, making AFAB and AMAB useful terms in certain context, as sex can be changed. Intersex or non-intersex status can't be. Perisex simply means non-intersex. Someone who is non-intersex will always remain non-intersex. Miroymon coined "enab" and "inabir" after they were repeatedly told by intersex people to use the terms Perisex/endosex/dyadic correctly, which they refused to do. They did apologize, but instead of actually using the terms properly and stopping their incessant spreading of misinformation (like for example that Perisex is an opt-in label), they simply made up new terms in order to spread the same misinformation.

Miroymon has been told multiple times to stay out of intersex spaces, to stop calling us "alt-intersex" if we identify as altersex while being an intersex person, to stop saying you can identify out of being perisex, to stop insisting non-intersex people should call themselves hermaphrodites, and to stop saying intersex is a sex comparable to male or female. Intersex is not a sex, it is a state between sexes. I say this as a militant intersex liberationist who disagrees with our pathologization. Intersex can be a sex descriptor for some, it is for me. But intersex is not inherently a sex. Miroymon seems to deflect the criticism in implying altersex identity changes Perisex status by insisting we are "erasing alt-intersex people", which is an entirely different thing. I am intersex and I am altersex. Of course I believe intersex people can be altersex. I am saying that being altersex does not change my status as an intersex person. Just as being altersex does not change Miroymon's status as a perisex person. On social media they have been blocked by many large intersex advocacy accounts and refuse to change their behavior. On one occasion, an anonymous user told Miroymon that it is distasteful for Perisex individuals to self-ID as 'herms', in response, Miroymon coined the term 'hiram', claiming it is an altersex-exclusive identity and it is distasteful for non-altersex people to use. Miroymon's entire essay is full of similar misinformation.

Altersex is a valid and perfectly fine label, but it is not what Miroymon has been making it out to be. It is not a "somatic" sex, it is a trans-adjacent identity for people who have had atypical physical transitions and atypical physical transition goals/ideal bodies. What Miroymon describes as "somatic symptoms" matches the descriptions of gender dysphoria/body dysmorphia. Miroymon does not have any documented proof of altersex identity being linked to spontaneously fluctuating hormone levels. I have identified as altersex for the last four years and I have NEVER seen ANYONE push definitions like this for this term. This is an attempted definition-shift and rebranding of an existing term, using language that spreads misinformation and co-opts intersex experiences, even if Miroymon never actually says they support 'perisex to intersex transitions', it's implied.

"Altersex is not a third category between or around intersex and perisex, and cannot fit exclusively into either or since it does not occur naturally.", I have a problem with this sentence because it undermines the fact that every single person is either intersex or perisex. Identifying as altersex does not mean you are no longer intersex or perisex. It means you are altersex ''in addition to'' intersex or perisex. That is why it is an additional label. Miroymon has been compared to a cisgender person who is offended at being referred to as cisgender, only in the context of being perisex. And I have to say its a very accurate comparison.

To say I am frustrated with this behavior and callous lack of regard for the intersex community is an understatement. - Intersexcowboy