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"Altersex is also defined as any of the sexes (not individuals themselves) that are neither intersex nor perisex" this is incorrect, as everyone is born intersex or perisex. Perisex does not refer to a specific type of body, as people can change their bodies later in life. Perisex means you were not born intersex. It is intersexist to attempt to interject a third category into these terms, as it makes it more difficult for us to differentiate our issues and spaces from perisex trans issues. - Intersexcowboy |
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Hello, there has been an individual on here that has been coining harmful/unhelpful terms to the intersex community and co-opting intersex language in redefining this term. I want the moderators of the website to be aware that the terms "enab" and "inabir" as well as "somayr" are all attempts to redefine or undermine language used in talking about intersex issues. Essentially they are attempting to position Altersex as a more acceptable version of "transintersex", which it is not. Altersex dysphoria is not any more "somatic" than any other sort of gender dysphoria. The terms "enab" and "inabir" mean 'endosex at birth' and 'intersex at birth', which were coined in order to imply a person can change their status from endosex or intersex to "a different sex", in this case, that means altersex. This is misguided at best and purposeful disinformation at worse. This individual has been doing this on numerous wiki sites. |
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:Thanks for the review, intersexcowboy. That secondary definition is a common variant, as per https://pride-color-schemes.tumblr.com/post/161266440525/altersex. ''"Altersex can also refer to -possible- sexes that are neither perisex nor intersex, in the cases of those who go through HRT or sexual reassignment surgery of some sort, since those people definitely shouldn’t use intersex."''. From what I understand about perisex/intersex, this coining seems to forget the fact that perisex/intersex is FROM BIRTH, and that one cannot BECOME perisex/intersex. However, I believe the idea is that this definition is more inclusive of fictional characters who CAN actually be born as altersex cause... it's fiction. And altersex as a fictional use has always been the primary focus, even from the original coining: ''"including characters that did not transition to having their specified anatomy due to always having been altersex."''. So although this secondary definition doesn't seem to understand perisex/intersex well, it's still a popular definition and part of the altersex history. If it helps, I can add something in the page to explain the controversy of this second definition - but I'd need an external source to back it up. [[User:Jeb CC|Jeb_CC, Bureaucrat | (xe/xem/xir)]] ([[User talk:Jeb CC|talk]]) 03:11, 18 July 2024 (UTC) |
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"Altersex is also defined as any of the sexes (not individuals themselves) that are neither intersex nor perisex" this is incorrect, as everyone is born intersex or perisex. Perisex does not refer to a specific type of body, as people can change their bodies later in life. Perisex means you were not born intersex. It is intersexist to attempt to interject a third category into these terms, as it makes it more difficult for us to differentiate our issues and spaces from perisex trans issues. - Intersexcowboy
- Thanks for the review, intersexcowboy. That secondary definition is a common variant, as per https://pride-color-schemes.tumblr.com/post/161266440525/altersex. "Altersex can also refer to -possible- sexes that are neither perisex nor intersex, in the cases of those who go through HRT or sexual reassignment surgery of some sort, since those people definitely shouldn’t use intersex.". From what I understand about perisex/intersex, this coining seems to forget the fact that perisex/intersex is FROM BIRTH, and that one cannot BECOME perisex/intersex. However, I believe the idea is that this definition is more inclusive of fictional characters who CAN actually be born as altersex cause... it's fiction. And altersex as a fictional use has always been the primary focus, even from the original coining: "including characters that did not transition to having their specified anatomy due to always having been altersex.". So although this secondary definition doesn't seem to understand perisex/intersex well, it's still a popular definition and part of the altersex history. If it helps, I can add something in the page to explain the controversy of this second definition - but I'd need an external source to back it up. Jeb_CC, Bureaucrat | (xe/xem/xir) (talk) 03:11, 18 July 2024 (UTC)