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    [[File:CorsQuoiFlag.png|thumb|220x220px|Cor's original flag design, edited to add the intended transparency]]
    [[File:CorsQuoiFlag.png|thumb|220x220px|Cor's original flag design, edited to add the intended transparency]]
    '''Quoiromantic''' (also called '''WTFromantic''' or '''Whatromantic''') is an alternative to a romantic orientation label. It can also be considered a catchall or umbrella term for similar identities.
    '''Quoiromantic''' (also called '''WTFromantic''' or '''Whatromantic''') is a term that typically includes not knowing one's [[Romantic Orientation|romantic orientation]] or not wanting to definite one's romantic orientation.


    Quoiromantic experiences may include:
    Quoiromantic experiences may include:
    * Being unsure what romantic attraction is
    * Being unsure what [[Romantic Attraction|romantic attraction]] is, and therefore being unsure if one has experienced it or not.
    * Finding the concept of romance to be inaccessible, inapplicable, or nonsensical
    * Finding the concept of romance to be inaccessible, inapplicable, or nonsensical.
    * Disidentifying with the concept of romantic attraction - either as a social construct or as something potentially applicable to oneself
    * Disidentifying with the concept of romantic attraction - either as a social construct or as something potentially applicable to oneself.
    * Questioning romanticism for such a long time that the questioning itself becomes the identity, rather than a path toward any other more stable identity
    * Questioning one's romantic identity for such a long time that the questioning itself becomes the identity, rather than a path toward any other more stable identity.
    Quoiromanticism is often considered an [[Aromantic Spectrum|aro-spec]] identity<ref>[https://www.pillowfort.social/posts/1073358 Quoiromanticism is not just a subset of the aromantic spectrum]</ref>, though not all quoiromantics identify with the aromantic spectrum.<ref>[https://www.pillowfort.social/posts/803837 Romantic Ambivalence Survey: Data by Subgroup - WTF/Quoi]</ref> Quoiromanticism can more accurately be understood as a disidentification with the romantic/nonromantic binary, which may or may not overlap with an aro-spec identity.


    == Origin ==
    == History ==
    As a consequence of the romantic orientation model becoming popular in the asexual community in the 2000s, some asexual people began to openly discuss why the model did not feel right for them.<ref>[https://theacetheist.wordpress.com/2019/01/04/quoiro-wtfromantic-a-brief-timeline-of-disidentification-with-personal-rejection-of-romantic-orientation/ Quoiro/WTFromantic: a brief timeline of disidentification with & personal rejection of romantic orientation]
    As a consequence of the romantic orientation model becoming popular in the asexual community in the 2000s, some asexual people began to openly discuss why the model did not feel right for them.<ref>[https://theacetheist.wordpress.com/2019/01/04/quoiro-wtfromantic-a-brief-timeline-of-disidentification-with-personal-rejection-of-romantic-orientation/ Quoiro/WTFromantic: a brief timeline of disidentification with & personal rejection of romantic orientation]
    </ref> For example, Kaz wrote that for zer, asking "so what's your romantic orientation?" is "the wrong question."<ref>[https://kaz.dreamwidth.org/238564.html A/romanticism]</ref> In 2011, in order to express frustration with the system, Sciatrix (at Writing From Factor X) began half-jokingly referring to herself as "wtfromantic" (as in "what-the-fuck-romantic").<ref>[https://writingfromfactorx.wordpress.com/2011/05/22/writhing-in-the-throes-of-unrequited-like/ Writhing in the Throes of Unrequited Like]</ref><ref>[https://writingfromfactorx.wordpress.com/2011/11/26/a-set-of-affections-difficult-to-characterize/ A Set of Affections Difficult to Characterize]</ref> In her words, "it started as a flippant, honestly fairly sarcastic frustrated comment, not an attempt as a serious identity designation," one she did not expect to resonate with other people.<ref>[https://writingfromfactorx.tumblr.com/post/86380040349/ultraviolet Ultraviolet]</ref>
    </ref> For example, Kaz wrote that for zer, asking "so what's your romantic orientation?" is "the wrong question."<ref>[https://kaz.dreamwidth.org/238564.html A/romanticism]</ref> In 2011, in order to express frustration with the system, Sciatrix (at Writing From Factor X) began half-jokingly referring to herself as "wtfromantic" (as in "what-the-fuck-romantic").<ref>[https://writingfromfactorx.wordpress.com/2011/05/22/writhing-in-the-throes-of-unrequited-like/ Writhing in the Throes of Unrequited Like]</ref><ref>[https://writingfromfactorx.wordpress.com/2011/11/26/a-set-of-affections-difficult-to-characterize/ A Set of Affections Difficult to Characterize]</ref> In her words, "it started as a flippant, honestly fairly sarcastic frustrated comment, not an attempt as a serious identity designation," one she did not expect to resonate with other people.<ref>[https://writingfromfactorx.tumblr.com/post/86380040349/ultraviolet Ultraviolet]</ref>
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    As a more pronounceable alternative to wtfromantic, the term quoiromantic was first coined by Tumblr user Epochryphal (Cor) in 2012, based on ''quoi, ''the French word for "what."<ref>[http://epochryphal.tumblr.com/post/37572886173/a-thought-wtfromantic-is-a-very-important A thought]</ref> Cor defines quoiromantic as "actively disidentifying" with romance, romantic attraction, or romantic orientation as "sensible/applicable categories" for oneself.<ref>[https://epochryphal.tumblr.com/post/106762907052/a-note-on-quoi A Note On Quoi-]</ref>
    As a more pronounceable alternative to wtfromantic, the term quoiromantic was first coined by Tumblr user Epochryphal (Cor) in 2012, based on ''quoi, ''the French word for "what."<ref>[http://epochryphal.tumblr.com/post/37572886173/a-thought-wtfromantic-is-a-very-important A thought]</ref> Cor defines quoiromantic as "actively disidentifying" with romance, romantic attraction, or romantic orientation as "sensible/applicable categories" for oneself.<ref>[https://epochryphal.tumblr.com/post/106762907052/a-note-on-quoi A Note On Quoi-]</ref>


    == Flag and Symbolism ==
    == Relationship to Aromantic Spectrum ==
    [[File:Quoi.png|thumb|Old version of the black-green-blue design]]
    Quoiromanticism is sometimes incorrectly understood as a subtype of [[Aromantic Spectrum|aromantic spectrum]] identity.<ref>[https://www.pillowfort.social/posts/1073358 Quoiromanticism is not just a subset of the aromantic spectrum]</ref> The reality is more complicated, since according to a 2019 survey, although many quoi/wtfromantics identify with the aromantic spectrum, not all do.<ref>[https://www.pillowfort.social/posts/803837 Romantic Ambivalence Survey: Data by Subgroup - WTF/Quoi]</ref>
    A number of flag designs and symbols have been proposed for quoiromanticism.


    In 2015, Cor proposed cos own flag design for quoi identities, including [[quoigender]], [[quoisexual]], and quoiromantic: four lavender question marks, rotated in a ring to share a single dot, as if spinning in a circle. This design was overlaid on a cool grey background in a house-shape, instead of the traditional rectangular flag.<ref>[https://epochryphal.tumblr.com/post/129602967777/ok-problem-solved-i-found-a-color-called-cool Cor's Quoi Flag Proposal]</ref> The choice of question marks as a symbol references the questioning basis of quoi as an identity term. [[File:QuoiFlagOld2.png|thumb|Later version of the black-green-blue design for quoiromantic.]]
    <nowiki> </nowiki>Misunderstandings on this front have sometimes resulted in overwriting other people's identities, such as when the term [[Queerplatonic Relationship|queerplatonic]] is incorrectly described as originating in the aro community.<ref>[https://theacetheist.wordpress.com/2019/11/02/qpr-revisionism-is-not-an-appropriate-proxy-for-aro-reparations/ QPR Misinformation Is Not an Appropriate Vehicle for Aro Community Building]
    Prior to that, other flag design proposals for a quoiromantic and quoisexual flag have combined blue, green, black, and white or gray, in varying configurations.<ref>[https://pride-color-schemes.tumblr.com/post/147022017775/quoi Quoiromantic Flag Designs]</ref>
    </ref> This common mistake has unfortunately involved referring to everyone involved simply as "aro," when in fact, some of those people did not identify with the aro community or with the aromantic spectrum at all.<ref>[https://kazaera.tumblr.com/post/188771456204/the-qpr-history-discourse-where-we-are QPR history comments]</ref> These misunderstandings arise when wtfromantics and those who do not identify with any romantic orientation are assumed to simply count as aro by default.

    More accurately, quoiromanticism can be understood as a disidentification with the romantic/nonromantic binary, which may or may not overlap with an aro identity.

    == Symbolism ==
    [[File:CorsQuoiFlag.png|thumb|100x100px|Cor's flag design]]
    A number of flag designs and symbols have been proposed for quoiromanticism.


    In 2015, Cor proposed cos own flag design for quoi identities, including [[quoigender]], [[quoisexual]], and quoiromantic: four lavender question marks, rotated in a ring to share a single dot, as if spinning in a circle. This design was overlaid on a cool grey background in a house-shape, instead of the traditional rectangular flag.<ref>[https://epochryphal.tumblr.com/post/129602967777/ok-problem-solved-i-found-a-color-called-cool Cor's Quoi Flag Proposal]</ref> The choice of question marks as a symbol references the questioning basis of quoi as an identity term. [[File:Quoi.png|thumb|100x100px|Old version of the black-green-blue design]]
    Prior to that, other flag design proposals for a quoiromantic and quoisexual flag have combined blue, green, black, and white or gray, in varying configurations.<ref>[https://pride-color-schemes.tumblr.com/post/147022017775/quoi Quoiromantic Flag Designs]</ref>
    [[File:QuoiFlagOld2.png|thumb|100x100px|Later version of the black-green-blue design]]
    The earliest of these appears to have been first proposed in 2014, with stripes in black, white, lime green, and light blue, but was later redesigned in approximately 2015, to black, a more muted green, a more muted blue, and pale gray.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20161106102634/http://pride-flags-for-us.tumblr.com/post/88136093824/flowercrownprincette-ragingqueermisandrist Old version of the black-green-blue flag design]</ref><ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20150924005815/https://chaotic-evil-gender.tumblr.com/flags Later version of the black-green-blue design]</ref> The original posts for both of these proposals appear to have since been lost and can only be accessed in their archived form via the Wayback Machine.
    The earliest of these appears to have been first proposed in 2014, with stripes in black, white, lime green, and light blue, but was later redesigned in approximately 2015, to black, a more muted green, a more muted blue, and pale gray.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20161106102634/http://pride-flags-for-us.tumblr.com/post/88136093824/flowercrownprincette-ragingqueermisandrist Old version of the black-green-blue flag design]</ref><ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20150924005815/https://chaotic-evil-gender.tumblr.com/flags Later version of the black-green-blue design]</ref> The original posts for both of these proposals appear to have since been lost and can only be accessed in their archived form via the Wayback Machine.
    [[File:QuoiTrianglePurple.png|thumb|100x100px|Lavender version of the triangular flag design]]
    [[File:QuoiTrianglePurple.png|thumb|Lavender version of the triangular flag design]]
    More recently, some simplified designs have been proposed inspired by the nontraditional flag shape idea, using a triangular flag shape instead, with the intent of being easier to physically reproduce.<ref>[https://queer-buccaneers.tumblr.com/post/185068311262/heres-an-idea-i-had-for-a-quoi-flag-thats-easier Simplified Quoi Flag Proposals]</ref> Like Cor's design, these designs exhibit a ring of question mark symbols sharing a single dot, except that the number of question marks is three instead of four. These designs have been proposed in both a green and a lavender version, in reference to previous designs. The green version is intended for quoi orientation identities, specifically. The lavender version is intended for quoi identities as a whole, as with Cor's design, "to honor its intentional vagueness." This leaves it open to use for other types of quoi identities, such as quoigender or [https://solipsistful.tumblr.com/quoigenic quoigenic].
    More recently, some simplified designs have been proposed inspired by the nontraditional flag shape idea, using a triangular flag shape instead, with the intent of being easier to physically reproduce.<ref>[https://queer-buccaneers.tumblr.com/post/185068311262/heres-an-idea-i-had-for-a-quoi-flag-thats-easier Simplified Quoi Flag Proposals]</ref> Like Cor's design, these designs exhibit a ring of question mark symbols sharing a single dot, except that the number of question marks is three instead of four. These designs have been proposed in both a green and a lavender version, in reference to previous designs. The green version is intended for quoi orientation identities, specifically. The lavender version is intended for quoi identities as a whole, as with Cor's design, "to honor its intentional vagueness." This leaves it open to use for other types of quoi identities, such as quoigender or [https://solipsistful.tumblr.com/quoigenic quoigenic].
    [[File:QuoiSpiralQ.png|thumb|126x126px|Spiral Q symbol]]
    [[File:QuoiSpiralQ.png|thumb|126x126px|Spiral Q symbol]]
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