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    {{Sexuality_Info|title1=Vincian|image1=Mlm_(seven-stripe_version).png|caption1=The vincian flag by Tumblr user "gayflagblog".|gender(s):=Men (+ potentially others)|gender(s)_attracted_to:=Men (+ potentially others)}}[[File:Mlm (five-stripe version).png|thumb|The simplified version of gayflagblog's flag |alt=]]
    {{Sexuality_Info|title1=Gay Men|image1=Mlm_(seven-stripe_version).png|caption1=The gay man flag by Tumblr user "gayflagblog".|gender(s):=Men (+ potentially others)|gender(s)_attracted_to:=Men (+ potentially others)}}[[File:Mlm (five-stripe version).png|thumb|The simplified version of gayflagblog's flag |alt=]]


    '''Gay men''' are [[men]] and [[miaspec|male-aligned]]/[[mingender|masculine-aligned]] individuals who experience [[gay]] attraction to men and masculine individuals.
    '''Vincian''' is one of multiple terms used to describe [[gay]] [[attraction]] to [[men]], [[Miaspec|man-aligned]] or [[Mingender|masculine-aligned]] individuals. Multiple definitions also include [[Non-Binary|non-binary]] individuals who are not miaspec, such as individuals who experience [[neutral]] or even [[Fingender|feminine-aligned]] [[gender]]s. It is one of the most widely recognized alternatives to the term "gay men" and is often used as the masculine equivalent of [[lesbian]] (referring to exclusive attraction). It is sometimes also used as a variant of [[achillean]] (referring to any MLM attraction, exclusive or not), due to miscommunication on the part of the coiner.


    It is sometimes more broadly defined as non-women attracted to non-women. However, this definition is not the most commonly recognized, and not all non-binary individuals feel comfortable being included under vincian attraction. A non-woman attracted to non-women is also called [[floric]].
    This identity is sometimes more broadly defined as non-women attracted to non-women. However, not all non-binary individuals feel comfortable being included under gay male attraction. A non-woman attracted to non-women is also called [[floric]].


    Another definition that is used commonly is men and non-binary individuals attracted to men and non-binary individuals, including all [[Toric|NBLM]], [[Astroidian|MLNB]], and [[Enbian|NBLNB]] attractions. It should be noted that not all non-binary individuals feel comfortable being included under vincian attraction, and alternate labels such as toric or [[uranic]] are sometimes used.
    Another definition that is used commonly is men and non-binary individuals attracted to men and non-binary individuals, including all [[Toric|NBLM]], [[Astroidian|MLNB]], and [[Enbian|NBLNB]] attractions. As, again, not all non-binary individuals feel comfortable being included under gay male attraction, alternate labels such as toric or [[uranic]] are sometimes used.

    == Purpose ==
    The term "[[gay]]" is used as an adjective to describe homosexuality, and is also often used by the entire [[LGBTA Wiki|LGBT]] community in general. For this reason, various proposed terms for homosexual men were coined, including vincian. Some individuals also argue that "gay" should just mean homosexual men all together, due to the fact that gay women are referred to as lesbian. Other individuals simply refer to homosexual men as "gay men".


    === Other Terms ===
    === Other Terms ===
    Although vincian is generally the most commonly seen term, many other proposed terms for gay men exist. Alternate terms include:
    Many proposed terms for gay men exist. They include:


    *[[Uranian]]: A historical term that is sometimes used to mean gay men.
    *[[Uranian]]: A historical term that is sometimes used to mean gay men.
    *[[Turian|Turian or Veldian]]: Named after Alan Turing. Describes both gay men and gay (NBLM) non-binary individuals.
    *[[Turian|Turian or Veldian]]: Named after Alan Turing. Describes both gay men and gay (NBLM) non-binary individuals.
    *[[Floric]]: Named after Florence, the birthplace of Leonardo Da Vinci, who is the namesake of vincian. It is a term used for non-woman attracted to non-women, it includes and is ''sometimes'' used as a synonym for “gay men”.
    *[[Floric]]: Named after Florence, the birthplace of Leonardo Da Vinci, who is the namesake of vincian. It is a term used for non-woman attracted to non-women, it includes and is sometimes used as a synonym for "gay men".
    *[[Vincian]]: Coined as a synonym for [[achillean]],<ref>{{Archive|Site=web|URL=20220122091216/https://bivirgil-moved.tumblr.com/post/175151881198/so-inspired-by-wuvsbian-i-wanted-to-make-my-own}}</ref> but is sometimes used to mean "gay man".
    *Patroclian or Patroclic: Comes from the Greek story of Patroclus, who was thought to be a romantic partner of Achilles (the origin of Achillean).<ref>[https://ask-pride-color-schemes.tumblr.com/post/187023633929/patroclicpatroclian-can-be-a-word-to-mean-non#notes Patroclian origin]</ref> Many individuals feel this term is too long and has too many syllables.
    *Patroclian or Patroclic: Comes from the Greek story of Patroclus, who was thought to be a romantic partner of Achilles (the origin of Achillean).<ref>[https://ask-pride-color-schemes.tumblr.com/post/187023633929/patroclicpatroclian-can-be-a-word-to-mean-non#notes Patroclian origin]</ref>
    *Hyacinthine, Hyacinthian, Hyacinthi or Cinthean: Based on Hyacinth/Hyacinthus from Greek mythology.<ref>{{Archive|Site=web|URL=20220220211638/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyacinth_(mythology)}}</ref><ref name=":0">{{Archive|Site=web|URL=20220127031937/https://lgbtqiarchive.tumblr.com/post/639268067833249792/ive-noticed-some-discussion-on-a-potential-term}}</ref><ref>{{Archive|Site=web|URL=https://cintheanz.carrd.co/#explanation}}</ref>
    *Hyacinthine, Hyacinthian, Hyacinthi or Cinthean: Based on Hyacinth/Hyacinthus from Greek mythology.<ref>{{Archive|Site=web|URL=20220220211638/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyacinth_(mythology)}}</ref><ref name=":0">{{Archive|Site=web|URL=20220127031937/https://lgbtqiarchive.tumblr.com/post/639268067833249792/ive-noticed-some-discussion-on-a-potential-term}}</ref><ref>{{Archive|Site=web|URL=https://cintheanz.carrd.co/#explanation}}</ref>
    *Thamyrian or Thamyri: Based on Thamyris is Greek mythology, cited as “the first man to have loved another male”.<ref>{{Archive|Site=web|URL=20220122091209/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thamyris}}</ref><ref name=":0" />
    *Thamyrian or Thamyri: Based on Thamyris is Greek mythology, cited as “the first man to have loved another male”.<ref>{{Archive|Site=web|URL=20220122091209/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thamyris}}</ref><ref name=":0" />
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    *[[Virescin]]: Comes from the word ''virescent'', meaning greenish. It is based off green carnations.<ref>{{Archive|Site=web|URL=https://krillfingers.tumblr.com/post/168023218383/virescin}}</ref>
    *[[Virescin]]: Comes from the word ''virescent'', meaning greenish. It is based off green carnations.<ref>{{Archive|Site=web|URL=https://krillfingers.tumblr.com/post/168023218383/virescin}}</ref>
    *Phthian: named after Phthia, city where Achilles was born.<ref>{{Archive|Site=web|URL=https://twitter.com/Sylvialogy/status/1569833524257255424}}</ref>
    *Phthian: named after Phthia, city where Achilles was born.<ref>{{Archive|Site=web|URL=https://twitter.com/Sylvialogy/status/1569833524257255424}}</ref>

    == History ==
    Vincian was coined by Tumblr user bivirgil on June 22, 2018.<ref>{{Archive|Site=web|URL=20220122091216/https://bivirgil-moved.tumblr.com/post/175151881198/so-inspired-by-wuvsbian-i-wanted-to-make-my-own}} </ref> The term was described as an alternative for achillean (implying non-exclusive attraction), but the creator also described the term as being a word for gay men<ref>{{Archive|Site=web|URL=20220127043134/https://bivirgil-moved.tumblr.com/post/175149656828/i-really-wanna-work-on-getting-a-popular-flag}}</ref> (implying exclusive attraction). It is unclear what the exact meaning of the term was intended to be. Some individuals treat the term as variant of [[achillean]]. Some individuals use it as another word for gay men (exclusive attraction).


    ==Flags==
    ==Flags==

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    [[File:Gay man.png|thumb|The gay man flag by Valentin Belyaev.]]
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    There are many flags that represent gay men.
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    [[File:C1c31a6a5cb184159f0a6bbcd465c9b8.jpg|thumb|The original vincian flag by ask-pride-color-schemes. |alt=]]
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    [[File:Cinthean.png|thumb|The cinthean flag.]]
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    [[File:Gay man 3 by pride flags ddx2cjp-fullview.png|thumb|An alternate gay man/vincian flag by gaymanflag on Tumblr.]]
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    [[File:Vincian.png|thumb|Alternate vincian flag by tumblr user chara violet]]
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    [[File:Alt Vincian Sunset Flag.jpg|thumb|An alternate, inclusive sunset vincian flag by FANDOM user Daemon505]]
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    There are many flags that represent gay men or vincians.


    In the mid-2010s, gay activist Valentin Belyaev posted his version of the gay man flag in an initiative group in VKontakte to combat gayphobia (homophobia against men)<ref>{{Archive|Site=web|URL=20220120201504/https://vk.com/wall-146511780_2722}}</ref> and on Tumblr.<ref>{{Archive|Site=web|URL=20200604074354/https://valya-belyaev.tumblr.com/post/182766126702/gay-mens-flag-as-soon-as-rainbow-six-coloured}}</ref> It later spread further on the internet and especially spread in the gay activist space.<ref>[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gay_men_pride_flag.png File:Gay men pride flag.png]</ref><ref>{{Archive|Site=web|URL=20220127060205/https://vk.com/wall-155654539_2050}}</ref> This flag consists of shades of azure and blue, symbolizes the diversity of the gay community and is an analog of the traditional lesbian flag, consisting of shades of rose and red.
    In the mid-2010s, gay activist Valentin Belyaev posted his version of the gay man flag in an initiative group in VKontakte to combat gayphobia (homophobia against men)<ref>{{Archive|Site=web|URL=20220120201504/https://vk.com/wall-146511780_2722}}</ref> and on Tumblr.<ref>{{Archive|Site=web|URL=20200604074354/https://valya-belyaev.tumblr.com/post/182766126702/gay-mens-flag-as-soon-as-rainbow-six-coloured}}</ref> It later spread further on the internet and especially spread in the gay activist space.<ref>[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gay_men_pride_flag.png File:Gay men pride flag.png]</ref><ref>{{Archive|Site=web|URL=20220127060205/https://vk.com/wall-155654539_2050}}</ref> This flag consists of shades of azure and blue, symbolizes the diversity of the gay community and is an analog of the traditional lesbian flag, consisting of shades of rose and red.


    The original vincian flag was made by Mod Hermy of the @ask-pride-color-schemes Tumblr blog in 2017.<ref>{{Archive|Site=web|URL=20220216032929/https://pride-color-schemes.tumblr.com/post/162294430961/gay-man-some-proposed-flags-to-represent}}</ref><ref>{{Archive|Site=web|URL=https://gayflagblog.tumblr.com/post/186181118619/gay-man-flag-russian-%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8-%D1%8F-portuguese}}</ref> It was based on the lipstick lesbian flag, which in turn was plagiarized from a satirical cougar pride flag. This design has been criticized for its stereotypical use of blue to represent gay men in terms of masculinity.<ref>{{Archive|Site=web|URL=20220120201505/https://freethoughtblogs.com/atrivialknot/2019/03/13/i-hate-this-gay-flag/}}</ref>
    Another gay male flag was made by Mod Hermy of the @ask-pride-color-schemes Tumblr blog in 2017.<ref>{{Archive|Site=web|URL=20220216032929/https://pride-color-schemes.tumblr.com/post/162294430961/gay-man-some-proposed-flags-to-represent}}</ref> It was based on the lipstick lesbian flag, which in turn was plagiarized from a satirical cougar pride flag. This design has been criticized for its stereotypical use of blue to represent gay men in terms of masculinity.<ref>{{Archive|Site=web|URL=20220120201505/https://freethoughtblogs.com/atrivialknot/2019/03/13/i-hate-this-gay-flag/}}</ref>


    Later in 2019, the Tumblr Blog gayflagblog proposed a flag based off of the prior version that addressed the issues with the old one by adding symbolic and historical meanings to each color and stripe as well as allowing those in the community to offer input and propose their own changes.The top three stripes represent community, healing, and joy. The bottom three stripes represent pure love, fortitude, and diversity. The white middle stripe is taken from the trans flag and represents all trans, non-binary, and [[Gender Non-Conforming|gender non-conforming]] vincians/gay men. The green and teal in the flag represent nature, as love between men is often seen as “unnatural” in the eyes of society and in religion. Furthermore, gay men have historically used green flowers and plants (carnations, hyacinths, etc.) The blue-to-purple gradient on the bottom of half the flag symbolizes how some vincians might be stereotypical, some might not be, and some are in-between or fluid.
    On July 10, 2019, the Tumblr Blog gayflagblog proposed a flag based off of the prior version that addressed the issues with the old one by adding symbolic and historical meanings to each color and stripe as well as allowing those in the community to offer input and propose their own changes.<ref>{{Archive|Site=web|URL=https://gayflagblog.tumblr.com/post/186181118619/gay-man-flag-russian-%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8-%D1%8F-portuguese}}</ref> The top three stripes represent community, healing, and joy. The bottom three stripes represent pure love, fortitude, and diversity. The white middle stripe is taken from the trans flag and represents all trans, non-binary, and [[Gender Non-Conforming|gender non-conforming]] vincians/gay men. The green and teal in the flag represent nature, as love between men is often seen as “unnatural” in the eyes of society and in religion. Furthermore, gay men have historically used green flowers and plants (carnations, hyacinths, etc.) The blue-to-purple gradient on the bottom of half the flag symbolizes how some vincians might be stereotypical, some might not be, and some are in-between or fluid.


    There are various versions of this flag, including five-stripe and six-stripe "simplified" flags as well as various color edits to make the flag more purple with warmer greens, have different shades of green to represent the carnation flower, and one that added the color pink to the flag<ref>{{Archive|Site=web|URL=20220125171024/https://gayflagblog.tumblr.com/post/629409796470276096/link-to-the-full-twitter-thread-by-ianblazquez}}</ref>. Versions of the flag with the double-Mars symbol<ref>{{Archive|Site=web|URL=20220122091216/https://gayflags.carrd.co/}}</ref> and the hyacinth flower<ref>{{Archive|Site=web|URL=20220124160429/https://gayflagblog.tumblr.com/post/622372254435753984/hyacinth-gay-man-flags-pride-flags-with-historical}}</ref> have also been made.
    There are various versions of this flag, including five-stripe and six-stripe "simplified" flags as well as various color edits to make the flag more purple with warmer greens, have different shades of green to represent the carnation flower, and one that added the color pink to the flag<ref>{{Archive|Site=web|URL=20220125171024/https://gayflagblog.tumblr.com/post/629409796470276096/link-to-the-full-twitter-thread-by-ianblazquez}}</ref>. Versions of the flag with the double-Mars symbol<ref>{{Archive|Site=web|URL=20220122091216/https://gayflags.carrd.co/}}</ref> and the hyacinth flower<ref>{{Archive|Site=web|URL=20220124160429/https://gayflagblog.tumblr.com/post/622372254435753984/hyacinth-gay-man-flags-pride-flags-with-historical}}</ref> have also been made.
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    The cinthean flag, was created by monstericfag on Twitter. The meaning is as follows: navy represents depth, purple represents beauty, fuchsia represents passion, pink represents pure love, peach represents joy, and white represents trans, nonbinary, and gender non-conforming individuals.
    The cinthean flag, was created by monstericfag on Twitter. The meaning is as follows: navy represents depth, purple represents beauty, fuchsia represents passion, pink represents pure love, peach represents joy, and white represents trans, nonbinary, and gender non-conforming individuals.


    Another alternate vincian flag was designed by tumblr user Chara Violet on June 5, 2021. This flag is based on all the other flags for gay male subcultures:
    Another gay male flag was designed by tumblr user Chara Violet on June 5, 2021<ref>{{Archive|URL=https://charaviolet.tumblr.com/post/653203689023160320/vincian-flag}}</ref>. This flag is based on all the other flags for gay male subcultures:


    * On the top, there's a pink stripe which is seen on the twink flag + the crown in the drag flag. Pink is also a color that’s historically been used to represent gay men in various ways. On this flag, it stands for gender non-conformity
    * On the top, there's a pink stripe which is seen on the twink flag + the crown in the drag flag. Pink is also a color that’s historically been used to represent gay men in various ways. On this flag, it stands for gender non-conformity
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    Green (#239e84) represents masc and man aligning nonbinary individuals. Blue (#37a9d5) represents men. Purple (#b07be5) represents the unique way masc, man aligned individuals express femininity. Pink (#eb88d0) represents love, specifically men, masc and man alignined individuals who love other men, masc and man aligning individuals. Pastel orange (#f8d2c9) is for aromantic and asexual individuals.
    Green (#239e84) represents masc and man aligning nonbinary individuals. Blue (#37a9d5) represents men. Purple (#b07be5) represents the unique way masc, man aligned individuals express femininity. Pink (#eb88d0) represents love, specifically men, masc and man alignined individuals who love other men, masc and man aligning individuals. Pastel orange (#f8d2c9) is for aromantic and asexual individuals.


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    ==Etymology==
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    File:Gay man.png|thumb|The gay man flag by Valentin Belyaev.
    The term vincian was coined in honor of Leonardo da Vinci, who was an Italian polymath of the Renaissance. He was thought to be involved in various homosexual relationships, although no one has proven it. He is most famous for his painting of Mona Lisa.
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    File:C1c31a6a5cb184159f0a6bbcd465c9b8.jpg|thumb|A gay male flag by ask-pride-color-schemes.
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    File:Cinthean.png|thumb|The cinthean flag.
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    File:Gay man 3 by pride flags ddx2cjp-fullview.png|thumb|A gay man flag by gaymanflag on Tumblr.
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    File:CharavioletVincian.png|thumb|Alternate gay man/vincian flag by tumblr user chara violet
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    File:Alt Vincian Sunset Flag.jpg|thumb|An alternate, inclusive sunset vincian flag by FANDOM user Daemon505
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    == See also ==
    == Non-typical gay men ==


    * [[Turigirl]]
    * [[Turigirl]]
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